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I am a student at the conservatory, CMU university. I am a classical pianist.
My teacher asked me this question and I am having problems finding the answer online.
Her question is "why did Beethoven laugh at the rule of forbidding parallel fifths"?
I need detailed explanations and am very willing to search for this if you could direct
me. Thank you very much.
Your teacher's question is, in a way, a loaded one and we will try to sort out
the parts gradually. One thing seems certain, you will not find a satisfactory answer
anywhere on the web.
1. This question seems to be a specific case of the more general "why did (and
still do) all composers laugh at (or at least disrespect) all the rules of (traditional
and academic) music theory?" One could even go beyond composers and ask what teachers
(including yours) think about these numerous rules (and their equally numerous exceptions),
including parallel fifths. Maybe you should look into this.
The answer to this general question is fairly simple. Traditional academic theory
has never been of any appreciable use to composers who have composed by intuition
and cultural custom (which varies with time and styles) without the help of any form
of map or compass.. Some cases are particularly interesting and well documented. Spitta
speaks at length of how Bach (J.S.) taught composition to his students, but all these
rules had nothing to do with the way Bach composed his polyphony, including his fugues,
which corresponded much more closely with the principles proposed by Rameau in 1722
that harmony was at the base of all melody, including polyphony. Beethoven seems to
have been more aware of his disregard for traditional theory than Bach was, but in
both cases, they did not use it.
2. Now, why does the question specify parallel fifths and not some other equally
arbitrary and insufficiently studied interdiction ?
Number of cases of parallel fifths are of common usage, generally accepted, and
used by numerous composers (including those who teach) - (a) When the movement is
completely operated on the same chord and not during a progression. On a chord of
Dm7 (or F6) the parallel fifths between D-A and F-C are perfectly acceptable, merely
the result of displacement and not of progression voice-leading. (b) When the parallel
fifths are between the secondary notes (third and seventh) of one (or both) of the
chords of the progression. In the progression from Cmaj7 to F6, the fifths between
E-B and D-A are perfectly acceptable when the tetrads are complete, with the dissonance
of the B with the C and the dissonance of the D with the C. (c) When the progressions
are between an alternation of dominant 7th and dominant 7thb5b9 with the b5 in the
bass, such as E7, A7b5b9/Eb, D7, G7b5b9/Db, C (often erroneously written E7, Eb7,
D7, Db7, C) the fifths E-B, Eb-Bb, D-A, Db-Ab, C-G (preferably in the Bass and Tenor
voices) are truly common usage.
Unpleasant parallel fifths are usually the result of faulty voice-leading. When
a triad of F is followed by a triad of G (in the IV-V progression) the parallel fifths
F-C, G-D are faulty because the triad of F is really part of the Dm7 tetrad and the
C being a seventh has a normal voice-leading down to the B rather than up to the D.
We hope that this explanation has been useful, but you must understand that we
are not Beethoven's psychiatrist, nor have we ever had access to his medical file.
The culprit seems to be the unjustified interdictions of traditional academic theory.
If Beethoven really did laugh at this interdiction, it must have been one of the few
joyful moments in a generally sad and painful existence.
You seem to have come to MusicNovatory as part of a web search for your specific
question. We are sure that you will find our site useful for all sorts of problems
including truly reliable procedures of Voice-leading (in Harmony/Transformations)
with which you will never have to think or worry about parallel fifths. You might
also have a look at Incompleteness (also in Harmony/Transformations) in which Real
and Deceptive Triads are clearly defined. Good luck, let us know if you need more
help.
I can't thank you enough for your letter, and advice. Your so very right saying
it was a loaded question, that is my piano teacher. :) You we're also correct in saying
I wouldn't find it on the web. But, I did write to other web sites and the responses
I received, were very inaccurate. Your explanation was detailed and complete, thank
you! I will use your web site often.
Also, I asked my teacher her opinion about the numerous rules, etc. I also submitted
my reply based on your information and she was very impressed. From what you say and
what my piano teacher tells me it is confusing! I have a very dear friend at CMU who
is going to be a Theorist. Laughingly, she told me that "if you don't know theory
they won't let you go shopping" :) Of course, thats just my dear friend Marcie's reaction
lol.
If I may, I would like to ask another quetion. I am a performer, classical piano.
Right now, im in the middle of harmonic interpretation, before I am permitted to interpret
any given work on the piano. (thinks how to phrase this:) So, as you have said and
my teacher agrees, I follow the composer and of course my soul to interpret. I shouldn't
be so concered about theory? Please know, that I know you cannot break the laws, Beethoven
(my favorite great composer) seemed more to bend the rules but they cannot be broken.
I just don't think im making sense here. It goes one direction then another lol. But
it my choosen path, I just desire to learn and perform. Again, your letter to me was
the BEST. Thank you very very much!
Your reply to ours was very heart-warming and appreciated. We are happy to see
that your piano teacher seems to agree with what we sent you.
As far as your second question is concerned, the problem seems to be your use
of the words "laws" and "rules". We prefer to avoid the word "laws" in our explanations
because the scientific use of the word means definite, unchanging and real, whereas
the legal use of the word means arbitrary, temporary, and changeable, and this creates
confusion right from the start. What we have is a natural phenomenon based on natural
principles, just like motion is based on the natural principle of gravity. You can
disregard it if you wish but it always applies anyway. Disregarding it might also
not be the best thing to do as you may hurt yourself, yet, you most probably would
not get arrested for it, as it is not against the law. Natural principles govern the
operation of natural phenomena and ignoring or disregarding these principles can lead
to accidents, not illegal behavior. Human laws and rules are arbitrary, they can be
changed, and they are not necessarily efficient (such as the old French rule of priority
on the right which fills traffic circles rather than empty them). MusicNovatory defines
Music as a natural intuitive phenomenon, and also presents and explains the natural
principles that govern it, "what makes Music tick".
Now, as far as Beethoven (or any other composer) is concerned, they do not bend
the natural principles of Music, because they cannot be bent. As for the arbitrary
rules of traditional theory, they may be squarely disregarded. Do composers occasionally
have accidents ? The answer is unfortunatlely "yes" for the simple reason that composing
music is a complex and subtle task and that even the greatest of us are still human.
Of course, this is completely another issue which we might undertake a little later.
In the meantime, enjoy the site and let us know if we can help you.
If what you call "harmonic interpretation" is what we would call analysis, we
strongly recommend that you look into establishing "Level 0" first so that you are
sure that chords are in the "right place". Again, let us know if you need help.
Thank you very much for your informative letter! Please forgive me for not replying
sooner but with school starting I've had my hands full. I agree completly about your
definition of "rules" and "laws". I hope I can explain this.. I'm a junior at a musical
conservatory. MOST of my professors use the term "Laws". Also, I'm at, like most of
my friends, a position in my education, where I seem to find most educated people
have some VERY different ideas! Its terribly frustrating. One class I have for example
if I used the term "rules", it wouldn't go over very well. :) Oh! Please, may I use
your example of "laws" and "rules"?? My friends would applaud till the roof comes
down. I'm very close with my principle piano teacher and I've talked to her about
this and everything else. She hugs me tight, whispers in my ear "give it time". I'm
trying. :)
I've told my friends (musicians and others in the same field) though why anyone
wouldn't want to be a performer is beyond me. I told them of your web sight with glowing
praise.
Your explanation that Beethoven didn't bend the laws or rules staggered me. I
have always, been taught this. Yet again, as I learn more .. its almost like a conflict
in me! Thank you again for your kindness and wisdom.
Of course you may use our definitions and examples of laws and rules, that's what
they are there for.
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